The Q Quandary – Part 2

In Part 1 of The Q Quandary, I described how Christians can be deceived in following Q without exercising wisdom and discernment.  The reason for this is because the outcome that Q espouses is exactly the same as what the New Age / New Gnostic community believes will happen.  Their expectation is that once Q defeats the Deep State forces arrayed against President Trump, this will result in a Great Awakening, i.e. a glorious future free of the evil players attempting to create a New World Order.  This is not a Biblical outcome.  Scripture tells us the world will get darker as mankind becomes more depraved in its anti-God fervor.  This will lead to the Tribulation.  That’s quite a difference in outcomes.

In this essay, Part 2 of The Q Quandary, I wanted to outline the contrasting thinking of Q’s New Age-Gnostic followers versus how they view the opposing Deep Staters that desire to enact a One World Government, and then add a couple of other factors into the mix.  The chart below hopefully summarizes this conflicting thinking between the two groups.

Those who follow Q can be said to be part of the Alliance, while the Deep State players are described as the Cabal.

Alliance                                  Cabal

Q                                            Deep State

Light                                       Dark

White hats                              Black hats

White magic                           Black magic

Illumination                             Satanism

New Age-Gnostic                   New World Order

Freedom                                 Domination

Storm – expose dark             Shelter – hide dark deeds

Righteous                              Morally depraved  (elite pedophilia rings)

 

This isn’t perfect, but you can get a sense of the gathering conflict.  However, as I noted in Part 1, this is—on the surface to a Christian observer—Satan against Satan and a house divided.  As I also said, that’s not the case.

In thinking about these two factions, I realized that they aren’t the only conflicting ideologies.  In fact, Satan isn’t juggling just two balls with his sleight-of-hand to distract Christ-followers from the truth of Scripture, he’s got at least four balls in the air.  There are undoubtedly more, but the other two major ones are the Red-Green Alliance, comprised of Red Marxists and Green Islamists on one hand, and the Apostate Church on the other.

The Red-Green Alliance causes Christians to stumble because of various lies they believe.  Prominent dupes of the Red Marxist cause are those on the Left, the liberals who believe in climate change, social justice, and the false racist narrative that’s currently being peddled.  At the same time, the Green Islamic side has done a remarkable job of confusing immature Christians to think that Islam and Christianity worship the same God.  They do not.  But gullible Christians are led down this path of Chrislam, believing that since Islam and Christianity are both Abrahamic faiths, they are equally valid.

While these forces are in play drawing Christians into false narratives, within the overall scope of what’s considered Christianity, there’s another major pond of quicksand.  Most of us are aware of the great apostasy taking place in the church.  Mainline denominations have almost completely succumbed.  Evangelicals are likewise embracing non-Biblical positions through aberrant support of LGBT and other like currents in society.  However, rampant ecumenicalism is also muddying the water.  The Vatican has attempted to overthrow the Reformation ever since it began with Luther.  The various popes have worked to undermine the wrong-thinking protestant church by bringing its leaders together to agree on various so-called common doctrines.  By doing this, the vital differences have been ignored in the interest of unity.  This has led in recent years to evangelicals “coming back” to Rome and agreeing that the Reformation was a mistake.  One prominent evangelical leader even went so far as to kiss the feet of the pope as an act of repentance and honor.

If you consider these four balls that Satan is juggling, on the surface you’d think that he really has a divided kingdom.  But, if you realize his every intent is not to have one side “win”; rather, it’s to draw God’s people into confusion and to darkness, then Satan’s mash of seemingly opposing positions makes sense.

Coming back to Q, as I’ve said previously, the stated outcome of eliminating the Deep State and the satanic elites who comprise it is a terrific effort.  Who of right mind could oppose that?  But as true followers of Jesus Christ, we must not be led astray.

By remembering that we’re in the world—and thus should be aware of what’s going on around us—we must absolutely not be of the world.  We must see through a Biblical, prophetic lens.  It is only through that prism that we can rightly discern the deceptions around us and the dark spiritual forces that desire to keep us from God and Truth.

Let’s stay awake and alert to keep on focus on Jesus and His soon return.

The Q Quandary – Part 1

The rise of Q and his public resistance against the Deep State has sent its globalist-minded minions into a frenzy.  Social media—when they even allow posts about Q—usually place warning labels to the effect that Q is an unproven tool of those who hold to far-right conspiracy theories.  Q has united people of many different belief systems against the New World Order that elites desire to bring about for the purposes of power and domination.

Many Christians have joined the Q movement because—whether they understand Bible prophecy or not—they instinctively oppose the Deep State and its bad actors.  Surprisingly, a large segment of the New Age community also resists the New World Order.  As a result, Christians—knowingly or not—are in league with New Agers.  Another interesting aspect of this is that many of these New Agers can also be called New Gnostics.

The Bible gives us sage advice in 2 Corinthians 6:14:

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

Why do I bring this up?  If Christians are of the light, then what is the New Age movement?  Even more so, what about the New Gnostic beliefs?  Yes, they are darkness.  Thus, in our common disdain for the Deep State and its eventual NWO, we as light are yoked with darkness.

Let’s examine this a little deeper to understand the scenario.

I think true Christians would all agree that the Deep State, and where it leads, is toxic and evil.  I believe we who truly know the Word of God would also concur that New Age beliefs are an abomination to God. We typically associate New Age with the occult, meditation, yoga, and practices of Eastern or Hindu origin.  Gnosticism in a nutshell turns the Bible upside down.  In their understanding, God is the bad guy and Lucifer is good.  He brought wisdom and enlightenment to mankind and got a bad rap for it, while God tried to hide all this wonderful insight.  In the Gnostic view, man effectively lives in the matrix of illusion, and must “take the red pill” to break free into the clarity of awakening.

If the Deep State is demonic and New Age / New Gnostic is demonic, what’s going on?  How could it be that satanically inspired esoteric believers are against this globalist cabal which is also satanic?

Matthew 12:25-26 tells us:

Knowing their thoughts, [Jesus] said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

Would Satan divide his own house?  No, and that’s the Q Quandary.

I’m teaching a Bible Discipleship class in which we’re reading through the Bible in a year.  Each week I usually give a Prophecy Update to the class prior to our diving into God’s Word.  On June 24, 2020 my update dealt with all things Q.  You can find it here if interested: http://garyritter.com/prophecy-update-q-the-nwo/.

The following is a heavily edited transcript capturing several minutes of that class beginning at 1:06:00 into the video:

[Gary] So, where do some or many Q followers go wrong?  Well, first of all, many Q followers are Christians, but what they do is they ignore Bible prophecy.

[Student] Because they fall into the premise that the good side is going to take over the world.

[Gary] Exactly. Because [Q’s end game] is similar to the New Apostolic Reformation thinking, which says that “We’re going to take control of the world, all the levers of society, all the cultural aspects of society. And we’re going to rise to the top, and then all the money will flow to us.”

[Gary] And then, over whatever period of time, NAR will Christianize the world and hand that to Jesus when He comes. Well, the Bible doesn’t say that. I’ll just warn you that you might come across some things [regarding Q] you have to take with a grain of salt.  It’s Kingdom Now. There is a very good, incisive look at the Deep State [on YouTube] called the Cabal Series. It’s really good because it goes into all the stuff, including the sexual predator stuff, that the Deep State people [who are part of it] do. It’s absolutely disgusting.  At the end of it, it goes in this NAR direction.  The thinking behind all that Q is doing is they are going to beat back the Deep State. And [when they do] this opens up a wonderful world free [and glorious].  I mean, it’s a nice idea, but I don’t buy it.  On the other hand, I also believe we still have to do everything that we can [against the Deep State].

 

When I did this class, I saw there were issues as to where following Q led.  You can see I had concerns about Q because his end game isn’t Biblical.  What I didn’t do was to connect all the dots despite seeing some of them.

Many readers may be familiar with Pastor J.D. Farag, who is a noted Bible prophecy teacher.  Pastor J.D. does weekly Bible prophecy updates.  In his update of July 19, 2020, he spoke extensively about Q and issued a warning.  You can see the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot4SZmr7RjM&t=2619s.

He dove deeper than I previously had and assembled the puzzle pieces that I did not.

I’m going to try to simplify this explanation:

 

Q is against the Deep State

New Age-Gnostics are against the Deep State

Christians are against the Deep State

Q is comprised of many New Age-Gnostic supporters

Q is comprised of many Christian supporters

 

Deep State is demonic

New Age-Gnosticism is demonic

Christians are of God

 

If Satan is not divided against himself

If Satan wouldn’t actually cause division between Deep State and New Age-Gnostics

Then Satan is deceiving us by creating a diversion

 

New Age-Gnostics desire an end game in which “We are god”

New Age-Gnostics desire “A Great Awakening” [Q drop 3858]

Q desires a Great Awakening

Q believes that when the Deep State is eradicated:

Then, “A Beautiful Brave New World Lies Ahead” [Q drop 2450]

 

This scenario has been likened to a false flag operation.  Both Christians and New Age-Gnostics oppose the Deep State.  They align and are yoked in their common goal of exposing and destroying the Deep State.  Because Q is a good and worthy force through his efforts to eradicate the Deep State; by definition, this means all that he says is good and acceptable.  Thus, Christians are co-opted into the New Age-Gnostic thinking because they believe in Q’s Great Awakening and its ultimate good outcome.

Guess what?  Christians are being deceived as Satan accomplishes his goal of turning them from God in their total embrace of Q and his stated outcomes.

Devious is not graphic enough to describe this plan.

I say this as one who loves what Q is doing to attack and dismantle the Deep State and the horrific pedophile rings that live within it:

Christians, do not buy Q’s end game.  Follow and appreciate what Q does, but do so with wisdom and discernment, knowing that Satan wants to suck you in and away from the truth of God.  He will do anything he can to confuse your understanding of Scripture and Bible prophecy.  Satan’s efforts lead to a dark place, not a Great Awakening.  You have been warned!

Prophecy Message: Things Past – Things to Come

In the Sunday morning service of New Beginnings Church on 8-2-20, I had the great privilege and awesome responsibility of bringing the message.  It is one of Bible prophecy that provides an overview of these issues:

What’s God’s Plan
What’s His Purpose?
Where Do We Go from Here?

I pray you’ll receive these words in the Spirit they were given: to give all glory to God!

Conditional or Definitive Warning?

Here’s the question of the hour: Are the prophetic dreams and visions we’ve been hearing about lately 1) conditional notices from God, 2) definitive warnings, or 3) the result of indigestion?  Although there are likely many who are in the third camp for these possibilities, I’m going to stick with the first two in this discussion.

For those of us who are Watchmen on the Wall (per Ezekiel 3:17), we’ve been seeing the incredible buildup of prophetic signs these last several years that have accelerated in 2020 at an astounding pace.  Many of us have been warning for quite a while that, yes, these signs do signal the nearing return of our Lord Jesus Christ.  We’ve seen and called out what is termed the Convergence.  This has brought into view literally every possible indicator of these final of the Last Days.  The markers include, but are by no means limited by, false Christs, false prophets, wars, rumors, famines, earthquakes, pestilence, plague, apostasy, love grown cold, mocking, depravity, and on we go.  It’s enough to take your breath away.

The latest fuel added to the fire is the series of prophetic dreams by Pastor Dana Coverstone, who never imagined his videos purposed for followers of his church would have a global reach.  But they have, and they’ve touched a nerve.

For those who’ve taken the dreams seriously, there seem to generally be two somewhat divergent streams of thought.  There are those who believe they’re conditional, and those who consider them decisive warnings.

The conditional group believe that, although serious, the dreams portend the disastrous prophesied ending only occurs if the church doesn’t pray.  They cling to 2 Chronicles 7:14:

if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

This has great validity.  God throughout the ages has given His people chance after chance when they finally stopped becoming no different than the world and then turned to Him in prayerful repentance.

The final warning folks take a different approach.  I outlined some of this in a prior essay titled A Jeremiah Nation: http://garyritter.com/a-jeremiah-nation/.  The bottom line in that piece was that a time came upon Israel in which God finally said, “Enough!”  I proposed that America may indeed have reached that nadir, i.e. the status in which God declares that no prayers will stay His hand.

I end up with mixed feelings between these two extremes, assuming they’re correct and God doesn’t surprise us with something completely different.  I’m not sure what that would mean, since Scripture clearly points to the disturbing end of America through our seeming lack of presence in end-times events.

What do I mean by mixed feelings?  I love this country and hate how it’s being undermined and destroyed from within.  I’d like to see the church rise up and be what it’s supposed to be, i.e. a light in the darkness.  Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we did that and many people turned to Jesus as Lord and Savior?

But, although I’m doing pretty well in this regard, I know that many people are weary.  They’ve watched and longed for Christ’s imminent return and begun to wonder whether that imminency is real.  They want to go home to the Lord.  They’re tired of being part of this world that has so many other intentions than following Jesus.  Is praying for Him to stay His hand of wrath on our nation as high on the list as it may have been in times past?  Do they really want to keep their eyes on this sin-drenched world any longer, rather than see Jesus face-to-face?

To look at Pastor Dana’s prophecies as ones that are decreed, i.e. there is no reprieve, has an attraction.  Their fulfillment surely heralds the final last gasp of the Church Age.  If that’s so, then Jesus really, truly could be coming for us in the clouds very, very soon.  Of course, the downside to these dreams means potential persecution for the church in America, if put into a logical timeline like I tried to do in another essay titled: Prophetic Dreams – How Can This Be?  http://garyritter.com/prophetic-dreams-how-can-this-be/.  In other words, things could get quite ugly for believers who stand boldly for Christ before He snatches us away.

Under the assumption that God has truly spoken to Pastor Dana—which we’ll learn before the year ends—it’s the nature of the words given to him that make me believe there is no turning back.  Here are the specific words that he reported:

“Brace yourself.”

“Endure to the end.”

“Something big is coming.”

Subsequently, in another dream, the message for the church was for us to strengthen ourselves in the Lord, to be unified, and to be the light that will bring others to Christ.

All these don’t sound to me like conditional statements.  They sound conclusive, as though God has made up His mind and the prophesied events are coming.  These words sound to me like a serious wake-up call, and that we had better be ready.  A major whammy is coming in which the church will be smack in the middle.

In either case, whether God will turn at this time from that which was shown to Pastor Dana, or not, the bottom line must be for the church to get serious in its faith.  I’ve said this many times: While we wait for the Lord, we are to occupy, performing the plans and purposes God has set for each us.  That will give us joy and peace, even in these turbulent times.  When we’re obedient to God, He blesses us and sees us through whatever may come our way.

We can never stand, now or later, if we’re not wholly devoted to the Word of God and prayer.  These two activities will root us; they will help us fulfill the threefold message of strengthen, unify, and be a light, and prepare us for the worst whenever it happens.

Which it certainly will at some point, just as Scripture foretells.

A Jeremiah Nation

I submit to you that America is a Jeremiah nation in a Jeremiah moment.  This was made clear to me as I came across an article by Michael Snyder on his End of the American Dream blog: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/something-big-is-coming-pastor-dana-coverstone-just-had-another-prophetic-dream-about-the-month-of-september

Snyder notes two items of importance.

  1. Another prophetic dream by Pastor Dana Coverstone that he recounts as part of his sermon message.
  2. A national call to prayer by Jonathan Cahn.

The morning I came across Snyder’s article, I was praying and asking God: “What do I pray for, Lord?  How do I even pray in these dark times?”  I believe this article is God’s response as an answer to my prayers.

Let me briefly summarize both items.

Another prophetic dream by Pastor Dana Coverstone that he recounts as part of his sermon message.

 This dream followed the same pattern as his previous ones with a calendar and emphasis on a certain month; in this case it was this September 2020.  The message was that the church must have a strong backbone, that there will be a great harvest, and that corruption within the church will be exposed.  Emphasis was placed on the calling of a solemn assembly in this coming month of September.  The assembly of praying saints will face significant spiritual warfare, yet unity in the Body of Christ will develop.  Despite being beaten and broken, people will stand victoriously through the ordeal.  In the midst of this, Jesus speaks to His true church, saying “Arise, My Bride…Prepare to pray…Prepare to see My face…I am coming soon.”

Nowhere was there indication that the Rapture would necessarily happen at this particular time.  Nowhere was there indication that God would stay His hand of judgment on this nation.  The bottom line was that: “Something big is coming.”

Here is a link to Pastor Dana’s recitation of the dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofU2Z4CTBxw

This is a link to the entire service with the dream in context with the message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHaZlsH-Lek

 

A national call to prayer by Jonathan Cahn.

Johnathan Cahn has been a prophetic voice for a number of years.  He has written several books that articulate the messages God has given him.  In obedience to this, he, along with a solid team of ministry leaders, is calling for a day and a season of prayer in September.

Cahn is calling for a solemn assembly.  This is the Mission Statement for the initiative called The Return:

“We need to make an honest inventory of personal as well as corporate (national) sin. In order to rectify them, we must acknowledge these sins, own them, and humble ourselves before the Lord. Pray that the Lord helps us, giving us the spiritual fortitude and grace to not only recognize spiritual deficiency but to be remorseful in spirit, pleading for His mercy and forgiveness.”

If you note the leadership team and advisors to this effort, it is not a creature of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).  This is important.  Cahn for many years has been warning America of coming judgment, not revival leading to a non-Scriptural, Christianized world that the church hands to Jesus upon His return, as NAR leaders declare will happen.

Here is the link to the website for this prayer effort in September for The Return: https://thereturn.org/

 

What does all this mean and where does it lead?

Many in the church have prayed for God’s mercy on this nation; that He would hold off in judgment.  Others of us have wondered when America would reach the tipping point in trying God’s patience.  And make no mistake, we see in the Bible where He reaches that point with Israel.  Should we in America think that we’re immune to this?

I believe that Pastor Dana’s prior dreams have shown that we have passed the point of no return.  You may criticize and say this is pessimistic to the Nth degree.  I humbly submit that it is the best news we who love the Lord can have.  Our time on this earth is drawing to a close.  Soon, we will be with our Lord and Savior.  What could be better than that?  To keep our hearts focused on the things of this world that is not our home?  I don’t think so.

What do I think the Lord is telling me as to how I should pray and what should I pray about?  Is it to turn God’s hand, or is it for the church to rise up and become what it should have been all along?  Exactly what Pastor Dana saw: that the church must have a strong backbone, that there will be a great harvest, and that corruption within the church will be exposed.

Why did I title this essay as I did?  Not that God will relent as the message of Joel 2:12-14 declares that God will turn from the disaster He has planned; rather like in Jeremiah’s time God had determined enough is enough as He says in Jeremiah 11:14:

“Therefore do not pray for this people, or lift up a cry or prayer on their behalf, for I will not listen when they call to me in the time of their trouble.”

Throughout Jeremiah, we see God’s declarations against the apostasy and hostility toward the Lord by Judah, its priests, and its people:

Jeremiah 2:8

The priests did not say, ‘Where is the Lord?’
Those who handle the law did not know me;
the shepherds transgressed against me;
the prophets prophesied by Baal
and went after things that do not profit.

Jeremiah 2:19

Your evil will chastise you,
and your apostasy will reprove you.
Know and see that it is evil and bitter
for you to forsake the Lord your God;
the fear of me is not in you,
declares the Lord God of hosts.

Jeremiah 4:22

“For my people are foolish;
they know me not;
they are stupid children;
they have no understanding.
They are ‘wise’—in doing evil!
But how to do good they know not.”

Jeremiah 5:3

O Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?
You have struck them down,
but they felt no anguish;
you have consumed them,
but they refused to take correction.
They have made their faces harder than rock;
they have refused to repent.

What does God say to all this?

Jeremiah 5:7

“How can I pardon you?
Your children have forsaken me
and have sworn by those who are no gods.
When I fed them to the full,”
they committed adultery
and trooped to the houses of whores.

Jeremiah 5:9

“Shall I not punish them for these things?”
declares the Lord;
“and shall I not avenge myself
on a nation such as this?”

The book is filled with such statements.  God has determined that He will not relent and stay His hand of judgment.  All this leads to the most terrible time that will ever come upon this earth: the 7-year Tribulation:

Jeremiah 30:7

Alas! That day is so great
there is none like it;
it is a time of distress for Jacob;
yet he shall be saved out of it.

As we see, there is a hope and a future for Israel.  A few verses back, God promises this:

Jeremiah 30:3

“For behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will restore the fortunes of my people, Israel and Judah,” says the Lord, “and I will bring them back to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall take possession of it.”

The church today has this same hope, although it will play out differently for us.  We who know Jesus as Lord and Savior will be removed from the earth during the time of Jacob’s trouble.  Israel, in its rejection of Christ, must go through it and pay a severe penalty:

Zechariah 13:8-9

In the whole land, declares the Lord,
two thirds shall be cut off and perish,
and one third shall be left alive.
And I will put this third into the fire,
and refine them as one refines silver,
and test them as gold is tested.
They will call upon my name,
and I will answer them.
I will say, ‘They are my people’;
and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’”

In summary, what’s the bottom line for the church in America as I see it?  I believe events will play out as God has shown Pastor Dana.  November will see great chaos.  The church will be subsequently persecuted prior to the Rapture.  Before all this, in September, many in the church will awaken to prayer and supplication before the Lord so that we might be strengthened and ready to face what is coming.

I realize this is not a message many want to hear.  Who wants more chaos?  Who wants to be persecuted?  Wouldn’t we rather see wholesale revival and for all this to go away?  Indeed.  But, Scripture indicates no such thing.

Now is the time for us as a holy people of God to pray for exactly that which was shown Pastor Dana.  I think that is God’s will for me and for the church so that we will be ready.  Let’s look forward to September with eager anticipation for a deep time with the Lord that enables us to stand boldly for Christ.

Something big is coming.

Prophetic Dreams? How Can This Be?

As many people know by now, Pastor Dana Coverstone’s series of prophetic dreams have caused quite a stir.  As I write this, the two videos on the dreams that he posted are starting to close in on two million views.  In addition, others have made videos discussing the dreams, and there are several hundred thousand views of them.  If you are one of the few who hasn’t seen Pastor Dana’s two videos, here are links to my YouTube channel where I posted them along with a few comments:

First video (3 dreams): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWpNqXaWU4E&t=7s

Second video (1 dream): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bSEJS-t34

Here’s a brief summary of the dreams so we’re all on the same page for what I have to suggest later concerning them:

Dream #1 – This dream occurred in December 2019.  A calendar flipped into 2020 and brought emphasis on the months of March and June.  The dream effectively showed the rise of COVID-19 with its many health issues, including ventilators, hospitals, masks, newspaper headlines, etc.  It also portrayed the aftermath of the George Floyd shooting on May 25.  This included protesting, rioting, guns, barriers, cities on fire, vultures over cities, and great fear.  The message from the dream was, “Brace yourself.”

Dream #2 – This occurred in late June 2020.  In this dream through calendar emphasis again, the overall impact was one of chaos with armed protesters and anarchy, particularly in November.  Schools were closed, banks were losing money, and politicians were dealing in back rooms.  There was no apparent presence of President Trump as Washington, DC burned and foreign military personnel came in, including Russian, Chinese, and U.N. blue helmets.  The vultures were now attacking.

Dream #3 – This dream occurred the night following Dream #2.  The bottom line of this dream was the move toward a cashless society.  There was no change (i.e. coinage) and small denomination bills ($1 and $5) were soon going away.  The warning was of hyperinflation.

Dream #4 – This dream took place at the very end of June or first of July.  It was a message very specific for the church, mostly in America.  It spoke of great persecution of pastors who preach the true Word of God, with much of the opposition arising from backsliders within the church and those who disagree with the true Gospel message of repentance and salvation through Christ alone.  It was a message of wolves among sheep and extremely unpleasant trials and tribulations for those who truly follow Jesus Christ.

If you’ve read any of my various other essays, you may have noticed that what I try to do is to reason through something, i.e. to attempt to apply a logical framework to the Scriptures, including Bible prophecy.  I ask the questions: “How does this work?  How could this play out in various circumstances?”

So, let’s do that with this series of dreams.  Cutting to the chase, the big issue at hand is—assuming the dreams are from God and the events portrayed will occur—how do they line up with the Rapture of the church?  Setting aside the first dream, as those events have already happened, where might the Rapture occur within the timeline of these dreams?  And please: I’m not date setting.  I’m saying, let’s reason together.  I’m speculating under an assumption that the dreams are from God.  If so, how does this all fit together?

One of the interesting aspects of Bible prophecy is that many times the visions of the prophets didn’t simply pertain to a single event.  There was a telescoping aspect to the prophecies which the prophets couldn’t see.  Thus, an initial fulfillment of a prophecy might be near-term, while a later fulfillment would be sometime in the future.  Yet, to the prophet, it all seemed as though, and was communicated as if, everything took place all at once.

If we look particularly at Dream #2 in this way, we might make more sense of it.  The major objection I’ve heard pertains to the Russian, Chinese, and U.N. troops present in Washington, DC.  That doesn’t seem to make sense today, before the election, even with the efforts of many to bring down the country.

Another objection that Dream #4 brings is persecution of the church in America.  Certainly it’s rising, but will it reach the level of intensity portrayed in the dream prior to this fall?  Obviously, circumstances on the ground are rapidly changing, but to reach this point the dream conveys before the election seems to be a stretch.

Some folks have speculated that to make Dream #2 a reality, the church has to be Raptured out.  There are too many patriots, conservatives, and Christians, especially in our military, for us to allow these foreign troops on our soil.  The problem with this scenario is Dream #4.  Will the church really be persecuted to that degree prior to November, then the Rapture occurs, and then all this other chaos comes forth?  I personally don’t see it.

That takes us to the telescoping effect.  Once we hit November, all hell breaks loose according to the dream.  I can see this happening, particularly with a Trump victory in the election, and the Left erupts in violence.  I don’t like this aspect, but perhaps something happens to the president—the reason he’s not a factor.

At that point, it’s all downhill.  Leaving aside how the government would look if the head were removed, this country could certainly devolve into more chaos.  The economy could tank like crazy, all the debt that’s been accumulated could cause serious problems, the Federal Reserve could print more and more money, and the prophesied hyperinflation could come about.  As these events occur, if the Left has its say, the church could then be persecuted as the dream contends it will.  That final message in Dream #4 was for us to: “Brace yourself and endure to the end.”

Sometime after this—however long we as Christ-followers must endure—then the Rapture occurs.  Note that I’m still placing all this within a pre-Tribulation Rapture scenario.  The tribulation we must endure is not THE Tribulation, but more on a par with what our brothers and sisters in Christ have gone through in the 10-40 Window for many years.

None of this is pleasant.  The ideal would be for God to remove us from the earth prior to all this that might take place.  We can hope and pray that He will.  However, once more under the assumption that the dreams are from God, and despite the doctrine of imminence which I believe in, there may be more of this world that we’ll have to see and respond to before our blessed hope materializes.

God will deliver us from the wrath to come.  We who are pre-Tribbers believe in that.  Jesus Christ is our only hope.  I think we should take God’s Word to Pastor Dana to heart.  We should brace ourselves.  More may very well be coming our way.  But in all things, we must endure to the end.

Pastor Dana’s Coming Persecution Dream

This small-town pastor reminds me of David Wilkerson.  Wilkerson was a rural Pennsylvania pastor who received a Word from God that he should go to New York City.  The big city was completely out of Wilkerson’s comfort zone, but he was obedient and went.  From his hearing God’s voice and obeying His direction, Wilkerson ended up founding Teen Challenge, which today is an international ministry dedicated to delivering men and women of all ages from drug and alcohol addictions.  Teen Challenge works because it’s based on salvation through Jesus Christ alone.  He is the only One who can deliver such freedom.

We’re in another time and place now.  The return of Jesus is very near.  This is the reason the world has gone crazy.  Every marker, every sign, that Jesus and His Apostles foretold are coming to pass and converge in this very hour.  It doesn’t surprise me that God would use someone completely unknown to bring this message of persecution.  As a volunteer with Voice of the Martyrs for many years, I’ve long believed that the church in America must suffer persecution similar to that of our brothers and sisters in Christ in other parts of the world.

If this prophetic dream is true – and I believe it is – the church truly needs to brace itself.  True believers in Christ need to make the determination NOW to stand when the raging seas threaten to overwhelm.  If people wait until the scourge is upon them, it will be too late, and they’ll be swept away.

Please share this video with others in your church and with unbelievers.  It’s not too late for all these who don’t believe to get right with God through Christ.  But Jesus will soon snatch away His faithful followers from the earth and then it’ll be too late.  Use this message.  Perhaps God will be merciful upon one who hears and he or she will believe.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bSEJS-t34

Scripture – Dreams – Or Both?

The intense prophetic dreams of a Kentucky pastor have recently attracted over 1 million YouTube viewers.  Pastor Dana Coverstone of Living Word Ministries in Burkesville, KY has had a series of dreams that – if true – are highly disturbing in their accuracy.  Here is the video at my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWpNqXaWU4E

The caveat of “if true” is the key aspect in examining these prophetic dreams.  From my perspective, there are two issues that seemingly contradict.  The question is: Can they be reconciled?

Pastor Dana’s initial dream in December spoke of the pandemic with its chaos, and the subsequent rioting we’ve seen in the aftermath of the George Floyd incident.  Assuming the pastor had this dream in December as he says, then its accuracy is right on.

The dream of things to come this fall is downright horrendous.  It speaks of terrible anarchy throughout the nation, along with Christian persecution.  Again, assuming this dream is from God, how do we respond?

Given Scripture and the requirement for prophecy to be completely, accurately fulfilled, the first issue we have to deal with is how this potential lawlessness works in conjunction with the Days of Noah necessity in Matthew 24:37-38 that life will be normal:

“For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,”

If things are supposed to be going along swimmingly when the Rapture comes, how can there be such disorder?

But wait, there’s a second consideration.  What about earlier in this chapter in Matthew 24:9-10 where it speaks of tribulation as part of the birth pains?

“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another.”

Is this referring to just Israel or to the entire world?  Are Christians affected by this?  Since the passage talks of kingdoms and wars and nations, it certainly appears to reflect a worldwide situation.

As a longtime volunteer with Voice of the Martyrs, I’ve seen the persecution of our brothers and sisters in Christ and grieved over it.  I’ve also long pondered how we in America could escape the tribulations that those in the 10-40 Window endure.  Will we really leave this earth without the sorrows that Jesus says we’ll have?  Are the tribulations we endure only a result of having too much wealth?

If not; if we in America will be subject to physical persecution that could easily come as a result of the anarchy detailed in Pastor Dana’s dream, that would not surprise me in the least.

But again, how do we reconcile a Days of Noah condition with anarchy and persecution of Christians that may be coming down the pike as the dream suggests?  How does the Rapture and the subsequent Tribulation play into all this?

First, the Tribulation.  We have to recognize that tribulation and THE Tribulation are two different things.  We know that lawlessness must arise.  It will reach a fever pitch once the Rapture occurs and the Holy Spirit—the Restrainer—is removed.  However, events on earth typically take time to develop.  They don’t normally happen overnight.  Thus, we’ve been seeing the Romans 1 mindset playing out for some time.  We’ve been seeing the 2 Thessalonians 2 lawlessness increasing, particularly over this last year.  We have no reason to suppose that Christians won’t see a significant increase in tribulation before Jesus snatches us out of here.

Where does this leave us?  How do we get to “normal”?  Here’s a question: Whose normal, and what kind of normal, was Jesus referring to?  That of Christians or of the secular world?

If the “normal” of eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage is for Christians, then we definitely have a conflict of Scripture to resolve.  However, what if that refers to those other than Christians, i.e. the pagan world?  What’s normal to them may not be normal to us in unusual times.

During the rising persecution of the early church in Rome, what do you think the average citizens were doing?  Did they care much about those crazy Christians who wouldn’t say, “Caesar is god”?  I don’t think so.  These citizens simply went about their lives eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage.

Do we really have a contradiction as to when and under what circumstances the Rapture might occur?  I don’t think so.  I think we could have this anarchy that destroys America, while Christians become a target.  I think in the soon aftermath of that, life for non-Christians could quickly get back to “normal,” i.e. the new normal.  That wouldn’t be the case for us, but maybe it doesn’t have to be in order for the intent of accurate prophecy to be fulfilled.

Of course, all this hinges on the veracity of Pastor Dana’s dreams.  Are they from God?  Joel 2:28 says that in the last days, your old men will dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.  Was that only for the time of Pentecost and the 1st Century?  I think God has given dreams and visions all along to some people.  Perhaps they’re increasing now.  I personally believe that during the Tribulation is when the greatest fulfillment of this will happen, but that doesn’t negate God giving certain prophetic dreams now.

Can the Rapture occur with the confluence of accurate Scripture plus a God-given dream of anarchy and persecution?  I think so.  How we read and interpret a passage may be partially right, but God may have a slightly different twist in mind.  We have to be careful about being dogmatic (and I’m as guilty as anyone!) about prophetic events and how they’ll play out.  It’s probably the rare individual who gets it all right.  God has the last say, and what we know may not be so.

Pastor Dana’s Prophetic Dreams

As a Bible prophecy guy, I look at the world through a Biblical, prophetic lens.  That means I read what the Word says and apply it to what’s going on in the world.  That’s called exegesis.  The opposite of that is eisegesis, where one takes preconceived notions and reads them into the text.  This leads to false interpretation and understanding.  Only by drawing out of the text through exegesis can we truly know God’s Word and its application to our lives.

Prophetic dreams are common in the Bible.  Because the gifts of the Holy Spirit did not end at the conclusion of the 1st century, as some would argue, people today exhibit those gifts at certain times under the hand of God.  However, there are many today who claim these gifts as well as the mantle of prophet and apostle.  Frankly, in my book, that’s not Biblical.

When someone has a dream, vision, or prophecy, we have to apply the Word of God to it.  Does it line up with what God had His prophets of old declare?  How does it resonate in our spirit?  Using our God-given wisdom and discernment, where do we stand upon hearing what someone tells us that may have come from God?

Because of my concerns about the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), which I’ve written about at length in these blogs, anyone who has read my essays know that I’m very leery of these guys.  As a lay pastor in a Pentecostal church I’m also leery of charismatic excesses, so you won’t find me sharing something like this video below very often.

The Bible is very clear that tribulation will arise as we grow closer to the return of Jesus – and I’m not talking about THE Tribulation.  As a longtime volunteer with Voice of the Martyrs, I’ve said over the years that the American church has it way too easy compared with our brothers and sisters in Christ in places like the 10-40 Window.  I’ve often speculated that something would happen to cause the churches in America to face difficulties in order to bring us more in line with our persecuted brethren overseas.

Well, we’ve seen a lot in this year of 2020 already.  With the upcoming election, I believe we’re going to see and experience a lot more.  As the church, are we ready for these things?  Generally, I have to say no.  The great falling away – the great apostasy – is underway.  Many people in the coming months (years? if the Lord tarries) will deny Christ.  Things will get tough.

Our job as true, Bible-believing, Christ-followers is to dig in, to follow hard after our Lord, and to do that which He has placed us on this earth to do.

This video may shake you.  I hope it does.  We’ll see by December or so how this plays out.  Is Pastor Dana’s vision true or false?  Either way, difficult times are here, and things will get worse before they get better.  But for those of us who know Jesus as Lord and Savior, the best is yet to come!  He will snatch us away soon – very soon.  The Rapture is imminent.  I don’t know what that means timing-wise, but I urge everyone reading this: make sure you’re right with God, and get ready for what’s to come – bad and good – because it’s surely coming!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TdpMSMP9x4&feature=emb_title

 

Prophecy Update: Red-Green Alliance

This video is a prophecy update that explores what is called the Red-Green Alliance.  This alliance is the collaboration of the Marxist Left and the adherents to Islam that hate America and want to tear down and destroy her from within.  The information will likely disturb you, but you must know what is happening in this nation to effectively pray and stand against it.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9oUsBfLS60&t=2s